http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#b1d294c0-f814-40ac-92d9-a752e44deff3 I suppose since this is a 'dead tribe' no one will ever appreciate my post...ah well. Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:51:25 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#b1d294c0-f814-40ac-92d9-a752e44deff3 Moonmom 2009-09-29T03:51:25Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#e5c0952f-cf7a-4520-8d3d-d4c8e1f2dc2f Another late entry Yes to 'The Devils Whore' That was WONDERFUL...I fell for everyone. And the strong female lead made it deep and riveting. WOW. Other ones with a strong female lead, strong not mush: Moll Flanders, BBC TV series 1996....totally wonderful...old England. KAMASUTRA a tale of love. This is beyond beautiful!...filmed in India...tragic. A Dangerous Beauty...the courtesans of Venice....lovely. Memoirs Of A Geisha...surreal and passionate. Miss Pettigrew Lives for a day...the depression..funny and good. Tristan And Isolde...Britain and Ireland...beautiful and tragic. King Arther 2004...realistic to the actual times...intelligent...good. The Kingdom Of Heaven..12th century France, Abelard and Eloise...very good, very tragic....very true. Desperate Romantics..BBC TV series .About the pre raphaelites...and their models...sexy, tragic And then there's: Troy...good...um...well..yup..sexy Little Big Man...American Indians and settlers, through one mans life...great..tragic The Three Musketeers...1973...sexy...fun Wuthering Heights...with Lauwrence Olivier...very very good...tragic...duh Rome...HBO series...FABULOUS The Tudors...Showtime series...Fabulous too. Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:45:52 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#e5c0952f-cf7a-4520-8d3d-d4c8e1f2dc2f Moonmom 2009-09-29T03:45:52Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#561ad398-8797-49f7-95b7-daf45f09549d ((((And that give us all the chance to really whine about it and call foul! )))) Isn't THAT the truth! Thu, 03 May 2007 18:55:23 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#561ad398-8797-49f7-95b7-daf45f09549d David 2007-05-03T18:55:23Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#95443025-bbac-4dfb-b723-02fa93458801 Fiction is defined as "a literary work based on the imagination and not necessarily on fact." I've also heard it described as the "illusion of reality." So the only things that really fall outside the historic fiction category would be documentaries, eye witness accounts, or other non-dramatized versions of the facts. Granted some of what is out there falls squarely into fantasy because so few historic facts are used. And that give us all the chance to really whine about it and call foul! Sat, 21 Apr 2007 13:13:02 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#95443025-bbac-4dfb-b723-02fa93458801 Elizabeth 2007-04-21T13:13:02Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#c6796e93-24cb-4d14-a8dd-e677f4adf425 I think we're confusing Historical Fiction with Historical Dramas While Elizabeth and Cleopatra have been 'Hollywoodized" do they qualify as FICTION? Many of the films mentioned below are actually based on TRUE history... FAVORITE Historical FILMS: TOMBSTONE, ROB ROY, BRAVEHEART, ELIZABETH. 300, SAVING PRIVATE RYAN So...what is Historical FICTION Film? Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:30:20 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#c6796e93-24cb-4d14-a8dd-e677f4adf425 David 2007-04-20T21:30:20Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#87c02e98-eb5e-47b9-bede-4d6167a2f04b This is really strange: I was in the middle of typing a post here about my favorite overlooked historical film, "The Bounty," when I paused to look up the film's date (1984) on IMDb. Lo and behold, it's on IMDb's homepage as the "Movie of the Day." Considering how obscure the film is, this is a bizarre coincidence. I don't know how much longer this review will be available, so here it is in its entirely, which says it better than I could: "These days, you would kill to get a cast for a sea-swept action-drama that included Mel Gibson, Anthony Hopkins, Daniel Day-Lewis, and Liam Neeson. Back in 1984, however, it was a little easier for director Roger Donaldson, seeing as Gibson was still an Aussie import, Hopkins was bouncing around various television projects, and no one had ever heard of those other two strapping Irish lads. Donaldson's The Bounty was a strikingly solid adaptation of the tale of rebellious Fletcher Christian, stalwart Captain Bligh and the breadfruit and Tahitian beauty that inspired mutiny on the HMS Bounty. Unlike the rollicking 1935 classic that starred a dashing Clark Gable as the swashbuckling Christian and an imperious Charles Laughton as the evil Bligh, this is a revisionist tale that casts the Bounty captain in a more compassionate light. Hopkins' Bligh is a usually fair and just leader who's unprepared for the tropical lust that takes over his crew, and soon finds himself up against Gibson's Christian, a man torn between his duty to his captain and the newfound love he has for the South Seas (and gorgeous Tahitian native Tevaite Vernette). Donaldson's strength lies in keeping the audience sympathetic to both Hopkins and Gibson, making out neither to be a monster but rather men driven by their differing moral compasses. Donaldson further distinguished The Bounty from its predecessors with its attention to historical detail and sumptuous location photography, which seduced audiences as well as the crewmen of the ill-fated ship." - Mark Englehart Mon, 24 Jul 2006 09:12:28 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#87c02e98-eb5e-47b9-bede-4d6167a2f04b Melodious 2006-07-24T09:12:28Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#c086d1ac-504b-4437-8e4b-ac718ebeb7cf Yes. Liam Neeson WAS in Excaliber. In fact, it was his first movie. He played Gawain. He's a fun actor to watch. I liked him in Rob Roy, Kingdom of Heaven, Batman and Star Wars, even when I didn't like the movie. Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:39:12 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#c086d1ac-504b-4437-8e4b-ac718ebeb7cf Elizabeth 2006-07-07T23:39:12Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#9b43d6a5-2c6a-46f8-b5ce-9cef06614f1f Was Liam Neeson in Excaliber? What role did he play? I don't remember him in that. That must have been very early in his career. I did enjoy him in Les Miserables, the movie ( NOT a musical). Fri, 07 Jul 2006 21:54:20 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#9b43d6a5-2c6a-46f8-b5ce-9cef06614f1f rebeccalee 2006-07-07T21:54:20Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#eb7d9977-9b81-4dde-b112-2276b5b9a664 Just finished A Rose for the Crown by Anne Easter Smith. It's a Richard III revisionist novel and I really enjoyed it. It's a bit fluffy, and told through the eyes of a researched possible/probably mistress, and mother of two of his recognized bastard children. Overall, I really enjoyed the research into the life and times of those who weren't exactly gentry, and not exactly peasants. Definitely worth the read if you have a taste for Richard revised...(which I do) Fri, 09 Jun 2006 04:23:55 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#eb7d9977-9b81-4dde-b112-2276b5b9a664 Christy Hussein 2006-06-09T04:23:55Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#6eadbfaf-06e9-41ee-916d-126f1784b647 Two recent films worth mentioning: Good Night, and Good Luck (Joseph McCarthy vs. Edward R. Murrow) Joyeaux Noel (the Christmas Truce of 1914) Both well worth seeing. Sun, 04 Jun 2006 21:07:55 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#6eadbfaf-06e9-41ee-916d-126f1784b647 Lori 2006-06-04T21:07:55Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#8598114f-f9fc-41c2-9497-e1c2680e9d98 did i forget restoration.with robert downy jr. and meg ryan also lady jane gray and anne of a thousand days Thu, 25 May 2006 21:32:29 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#8598114f-f9fc-41c2-9497-e1c2680e9d98 sally 2006-05-25T21:32:29Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#cda70be6-f0ab-4205-befc-3e95f815f9a6 Tora! Tora! Tora! ...probably the most historically acurrate movie ever made. Four Feathers ...I have no idea about its accuracy, but it has a great story and awesome acting. Taming of the Shrew (with Elizabeth Taylor as Kate) ...Shakespeare, 'nuff said. Shakespeare in Love ...Judy Dench alone makes this film worth seeing, plus Gwynith Paltrow's ta-tas. Kingdom of Heaven ...Maybe not top 5, editing sucked, acurracy was suspect, and acting was questionable. Tue, 23 May 2006 14:50:26 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#cda70be6-f0ab-4205-befc-3e95f815f9a6 Diego 2006-05-23T14:50:26Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#c4b69e1a-66fc-4b15-ba5f-b3b7cca37baa 1. The Lion in Winter. 2. Cleopatra (and all ancient Rome, feed the Christians to the lions movies... anything with Roddy McDowell, Italian women with big hair and major eye shadow, Peter Ustinov) 3. Elizabeth 4. Marie Antoinette (Norma Shearer's best role) 5. Anne of a Thousand Days I'll stop only cuz 5 was the rule. Tue, 23 May 2006 03:46:07 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#c4b69e1a-66fc-4b15-ba5f-b3b7cca37baa Myles 2006-05-23T03:46:07Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#e29b4fe0-bf8c-4f3a-bc7b-ad83543974c0 i have more than five elizabeth "both newer films orlando lion in winter "both old and new vamont rob roy the kings whore queen margo el cid bravehart thombstone mayerling dr.. shavago its a beautiful life cold mt. timeline it was ok but the book is great Tue, 23 May 2006 03:34:57 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#e29b4fe0-bf8c-4f3a-bc7b-ad83543974c0 sally 2006-05-23T03:34:57Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#73667501-5cff-44fd-b457-fc9a3593d064 Come to think of it ... I'm going to bump One Man's Hero for 'the 13th Warrior.' ... a highly under-rated period piece. Sat, 20 Aug 2005 18:10:17 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#73667501-5cff-44fd-b457-fc9a3593d064 $item.owner.firstName 2005-08-20T18:10:17Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#7ec72e3f-1757-4853-ad61-d20eb7ea5950 Michael Collins. One Man's Hero. Road to Perdition. Rob Roy gets my vote over Braveheart anyday. Braveheart was a great film but it's really puts the fiction ... in "Historical fiction" Dances With Wolves. Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:38:43 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#7ec72e3f-1757-4853-ad61-d20eb7ea5950 $item.owner.firstName 2005-08-18T17:38:43Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#12414ecf-84d1-4757-a340-f09051ce1fbc Loved Rosencrantz and Gildernstern... What'd you all think of Kingdom of Heaven? Wed, 03 Aug 2005 19:47:13 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#12414ecf-84d1-4757-a340-f09051ce1fbc Anton 2005-08-03T19:47:13Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#f1448806-8e76-4d90-820c-810449242d29 yes, an excellent movie... my two favorite subjects, history and sex...and the history of sex sends me into bliss... Tue, 02 Aug 2005 17:35:53 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#f1448806-8e76-4d90-820c-810449242d29 $item.owner.firstName 2005-08-02T17:35:53Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#49ee66b3-bd4d-4dc1-94aa-327d832ff958 Have you seen "Qullis"? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0180073/ SEE IT! ;-) Tue, 02 Aug 2005 15:28:03 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#49ee66b3-bd4d-4dc1-94aa-327d832ff958 Helena 2005-08-02T15:28:03Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#4d300575-9383-4cfd-a420-c00c630cb12f yes, pretty much any Cleopatra does it for me! I agree with you totally, about Braveheart AND Gladiator. Joaquin Phoenix was great... Tue, 02 Aug 2005 15:21:46 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#4d300575-9383-4cfd-a420-c00c630cb12f $item.owner.firstName 2005-08-02T15:21:46Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#b324a9ba-3f3d-4c17-a7df-cc1a3d8ce022 Uuuh! I forgot Amadeus and Cleopatra. But I prefer Cleopatra with Theda Bara or Claudette Colbert. They played a very self-confident Cleo. I also "forgive" historical mistakes! Braveheart was entertaining, as well was Gladiator. But - they don't get "my" AAA++ Rating. *gg* In Braveheart, what I found very irritating (is that spelled correct?) was that Mel didn't grow old. Or let me say it this way - he played young, mid-age and the older Braveheart - but he always looked the same. For Gladiator, my fave actor wasn't Rusell Crowe, it was Commodus - Joaquin Phoenix. He played this crazy caesar very impressive. The movies I listed are just my personal favorites. Tue, 02 Aug 2005 15:11:54 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#b324a9ba-3f3d-4c17-a7df-cc1a3d8ce022 Helena 2005-08-02T15:11:54Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#6ab03518-e83c-42ee-ba95-fe56bb28e5aa Oh, I almost forgot..any adaptation of a James Michener or Mikah Waltari novel... Tue, 02 Aug 2005 12:57:43 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#6ab03518-e83c-42ee-ba95-fe56bb28e5aa $item.owner.firstName 2005-08-02T12:57:43Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#8dd60e65-d0e0-411b-b237-0721a74e78bb Unfortunately, all of my favorite histroical fiction movies are very factually flawed. But then, I tend to be more forgiving about that in movies as long as the movie is entertaining. So my favorites are Braveheart, Amadeus and Cleopatra (Liz Taylor at her lovliest...) Phyllis Tue, 02 Aug 2005 12:55:11 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#8dd60e65-d0e0-411b-b237-0721a74e78bb $item.owner.firstName 2005-08-02T12:55:11Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#4d29e050-c425-4eac-b191-de9604e13995 For the files...my fave Historic (not only Fiction) movies: Charles II (with Rufus Sewell) - AAA+ Rating La Reine Margot, engl. Queen Margot (with Isabelle Adjani) - AAA++ Rating Elizabeth (with Cate Blanchett) - AAA+ Rating Vatel (with Gérard Depardieu) - AAA+ Rating Pride & Prejudice (with Colin Firth...) - AAA+ Rating Emma (with Kate Beckinsale) - AAA- Rating Girl With A Pearl Earring (with Colin Firth) - AAA+ Rating Henry VIII (with Ray Winstone) - AAA+ Rating Les Liaisons Dangereuses - (with Glen Close) AAA+ Rating Cyrano de Bergerac (with Gérard Depardieu) - AAA Rating I also liked movies like Gladiator or Braveheart, but I beg your forgiveness - to many historical mistakes. Best regards Helena Tue, 02 Aug 2005 06:56:08 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#4d29e050-c425-4eac-b191-de9604e13995 Helena 2005-08-02T06:56:08Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#def9a195-2895-4168-9cb5-42fb048f0231 Braveheart, even though it is horribly historically inaccurate. Mansfield Park The Patriot Do go see Kingdom of Heaven, it got bad reviews but I really enjoyed it. Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:10:18 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#def9a195-2895-4168-9cb5-42fb048f0231 Annabelle 2005-07-21T21:10:18Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#ef356c61-b0b8-4d2b-9a27-af49db6e8f26 Rob Roy WAS good. But I'm a big Liam Neeson fan. He just seems cut out to play period stuff. I mean all the way back to Excalibur. I didn't see Kingdom of Heaven, because people poo-poo'd it, but I was tempted to go just because Liam was in it. Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:26:27 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#ef356c61-b0b8-4d2b-9a27-af49db6e8f26 Elizabeth 2005-06-14T17:26:27Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#dad59d15-8876-49fe-922f-b3f5d8c7c8c4 While I'm fond of Braveheart, for Scottish historical film, I have to say I prefer Rob Roy. I am truly braindead today as I can't think of others I've loved... but they exist. I know they do. I'll post again when more braincells are firing. Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:58:03 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#dad59d15-8876-49fe-922f-b3f5d8c7c8c4 Sandy 2005-06-14T16:58:03Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#105f52c6-1650-4320-a180-71133b86e4d5 I second Henry V, what an incredible production of a classic play. Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:18:01 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#105f52c6-1650-4320-a180-71133b86e4d5 Christy Hussein 2005-06-14T00:18:01Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#483a9c2b-b16c-4cf8-9384-f80874e71396 Brannagh's "Henry V" Gibson's "Hamlet" and it's amazing corollary "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead" written by Tom Stoppard, with Richard Dreyfus, Tim Roth, and Gary Oldman in the cast. there are more, but it's time to go home. Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:17:50 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#483a9c2b-b16c-4cf8-9384-f80874e71396 Coach C 2005-06-13T23:17:50Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#adfed4ae-6be2-4e6a-9968-035700cfa5f5 Seems like there has been a rash of historic fiction movies of late, some good, some bad. But, historically speaking, which are your favorites. I loved: Master and Commander Gladiator I, Claudius (though it was a miniseries and not a movie) Emma Braveheart Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:13:19 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/cc1dbc7f-9a47-4500-9b4f-c3c9fa90e43e#adfed4ae-6be2-4e6a-9968-035700cfa5f5 Elizabeth 2005-06-13T22:13:19Z