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Seems like there has been a rash of historic fiction movies of late, some good, some bad. But, historically speaking, which are your favorites.
I loved:
Master and Commander
Gladiator
I, Claudius (though it was a miniseries and not a movie)
Emma
Braveheart
I loved:
Master and Commander
Gladiator
I, Claudius (though it was a miniseries and not a movie)
Emma
Braveheart
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Re: Top 5 Historic Fiction Movies
Mon, June 13, 2005 - 4:17 PMBrannagh's "Henry V"
Gibson's "Hamlet" and it's amazing corollary "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead" written by Tom Stoppard, with Richard Dreyfus, Tim Roth, and Gary Oldman in the cast.
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Mon, June 13, 2005 - 5:18 PMI second Henry V, what an incredible production of a classic play.
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Tue, June 14, 2005 - 9:58 AMWhile I'm fond of Braveheart, for Scottish historical film, I have to say I prefer Rob Roy.
I am truly braindead today as I can't think of others I've loved... but they exist. I know they do. I'll post again when more braincells are firing. -
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Tue, June 14, 2005 - 10:26 AMRob Roy WAS good. But I'm a big Liam Neeson fan. He just seems cut out to play period stuff. I mean all the way back to Excalibur.
I didn't see Kingdom of Heaven, because people poo-poo'd it, but I was tempted to go just because Liam was in it. -
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Thu, July 21, 2005 - 2:10 PMBraveheart, even though it is horribly historically inaccurate.
Mansfield Park
The Patriot
Do go see Kingdom of Heaven, it got bad reviews but I really enjoyed it.
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Fri, July 7, 2006 - 2:54 PMWas Liam Neeson in Excaliber? What role did he play? I don't remember him in that. That must have been very early in his career. I did enjoy him in Les Miserables, the movie ( NOT a musical). -
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Fri, July 7, 2006 - 4:39 PMYes. Liam Neeson WAS in Excaliber. In fact, it was his first movie. He played Gawain.
He's a fun actor to watch. I liked him in Rob Roy, Kingdom of Heaven, Batman and Star Wars, even when I didn't like the movie. -
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Mon, July 24, 2006 - 2:12 AMThis is really strange: I was in the middle of typing a post here about my favorite overlooked historical film, "The Bounty," when I paused to look up the film's date (1984) on IMDb. Lo and behold, it's on IMDb's homepage as the "Movie of the Day." Considering how obscure the film is, this is a bizarre coincidence. I don't know how much longer this review will be available, so here it is in its entirely, which says it better than I could:
"These days, you would kill to get a cast for a sea-swept action-drama that included Mel Gibson, Anthony Hopkins, Daniel Day-Lewis, and Liam Neeson. Back in 1984, however, it was a little easier for director Roger Donaldson, seeing as Gibson was still an Aussie import, Hopkins was bouncing around various television projects, and no one had ever heard of those other two strapping Irish lads. Donaldson's The Bounty was a strikingly solid adaptation of the tale of rebellious Fletcher Christian, stalwart Captain Bligh and the breadfruit and Tahitian beauty that inspired mutiny on the HMS Bounty. Unlike the rollicking 1935 classic that starred a dashing Clark Gable as the swashbuckling Christian and an imperious Charles Laughton as the evil Bligh, this is a revisionist tale that casts the Bounty captain in a more compassionate light. Hopkins' Bligh is a usually fair and just leader who's unprepared for the tropical lust that takes over his crew, and soon finds himself up against Gibson's Christian, a man torn between his duty to his captain and the newfound love he has for the South Seas (and gorgeous Tahitian native Tevaite Vernette). Donaldson's strength lies in keeping the audience sympathetic to both Hopkins and Gibson, making out neither to be a monster but rather men driven by their differing moral compasses. Donaldson further distinguished The Bounty from its predecessors with its attention to historical detail and sumptuous location photography, which seduced audiences as well as the crewmen of the ill-fated ship." - Mark Englehart -
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Fri, April 20, 2007 - 2:30 PMI think we're confusing Historical Fiction with Historical Dramas
While Elizabeth and Cleopatra have been 'Hollywoodized" do they qualify as FICTION?
Many of the films mentioned below are actually based on TRUE history...
FAVORITE Historical FILMS: TOMBSTONE, ROB ROY, BRAVEHEART, ELIZABETH. 300, SAVING PRIVATE RYAN
So...what is Historical FICTION Film?
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Sat, April 21, 2007 - 6:13 AMFiction is defined as "a literary work based on the imagination and not necessarily on fact." I've also heard it described as the "illusion of reality."
So the only things that really fall outside the historic fiction category would be documentaries, eye witness accounts, or other non-dramatized versions of the facts. Granted some of what is out there falls squarely into fantasy because so few historic facts are used. And that give us all the chance to really whine about it and call foul! -
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Thu, May 3, 2007 - 11:55 AM((((And that give us all the chance to really whine about it and call foul! ))))
Isn't THAT the truth!
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Wed, August 3, 2005 - 12:47 PMLoved Rosencrantz and Gildernstern...
What'd you all think of Kingdom of Heaven?
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Mon, May 22, 2006 - 8:34 PMi have more than five
elizabeth "both newer films
orlando
lion in winter "both old and new
vamont
rob roy
the kings whore
queen margo
el cid
bravehart
thombstone
mayerling
dr.. shavago
its a beautiful life
cold mt.
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Thu, May 25, 2006 - 2:32 PMdid i forget restoration.with robert downy jr. and meg ryan also lady jane gray and anne of a thousand days
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Mon, August 1, 2005 - 11:56 PMFor the files...my fave Historic (not only Fiction) movies:
Charles II (with Rufus Sewell) - AAA+ Rating
La Reine Margot, engl. Queen Margot (with Isabelle Adjani) - AAA++ Rating
Elizabeth (with Cate Blanchett) - AAA+ Rating
Vatel (with Gérard Depardieu) - AAA+ Rating
Pride & Prejudice (with Colin Firth...) - AAA+ Rating
Emma (with Kate Beckinsale) - AAA- Rating
Girl With A Pearl Earring (with Colin Firth) - AAA+ Rating
Henry VIII (with Ray Winstone) - AAA+ Rating
Les Liaisons Dangereuses - (with Glen Close) AAA+ Rating
Cyrano de Bergerac (with Gérard Depardieu) - AAA Rating
I also liked movies like Gladiator or Braveheart, but I beg your forgiveness - to many historical mistakes.
Best regards
Helena
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Tue, August 2, 2005 - 5:55 AMUnfortunately, all of my favorite histroical fiction movies are very factually flawed. But then, I tend to be more forgiving about that in movies as long as the movie is entertaining. So my favorites are Braveheart, Amadeus and Cleopatra (Liz Taylor at her lovliest...)
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Tue, August 2, 2005 - 5:57 AMOh, I almost forgot..any adaptation of a James Michener or Mikah Waltari novel...
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Tue, August 2, 2005 - 8:11 AMUuuh! I forgot Amadeus and Cleopatra. But I prefer Cleopatra with Theda Bara or Claudette Colbert. They played a very self-confident Cleo.
I also "forgive" historical mistakes! Braveheart was entertaining, as well was Gladiator. But - they don't get "my" AAA++ Rating. *gg*
In Braveheart, what I found very irritating (is that spelled correct?) was that Mel didn't grow old. Or let me say it this way - he played young, mid-age and the older Braveheart - but he always looked the same.
For Gladiator, my fave actor wasn't Rusell Crowe, it was Commodus - Joaquin Phoenix. He played this crazy caesar very impressive.
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Tue, August 2, 2005 - 8:21 AMyes, pretty much any Cleopatra does it for me! I agree with you totally, about Braveheart AND Gladiator. Joaquin Phoenix was great... -
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Tue, August 2, 2005 - 10:35 AMyes, an excellent movie...
my two favorite subjects, history and sex...and the history of sex sends me into bliss... -
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Thu, August 18, 2005 - 10:38 AMMichael Collins.
One Man's Hero.
Road to Perdition.
Rob Roy gets my vote over Braveheart anyday. Braveheart was a great film but it's really puts the fiction ... in "Historical fiction"
Dances With Wolves. -
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Sat, August 20, 2005 - 11:10 AMCome to think of it ... I'm going to bump One Man's Hero for 'the 13th Warrior.' ... a highly under-rated period piece. -
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Mon, May 22, 2006 - 8:46 PM1. The Lion in Winter.
2. Cleopatra (and all ancient Rome, feed the Christians to the lions movies... anything with Roddy McDowell, Italian women with big hair and major eye shadow, Peter Ustinov)
3. Elizabeth
4. Marie Antoinette (Norma Shearer's best role)
5. Anne of a Thousand Days
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Tue, May 23, 2006 - 7:50 AMTora! Tora! Tora! ...probably the most historically acurrate movie ever made.
Four Feathers ...I have no idea about its accuracy, but it has a great story and awesome acting.
Taming of the Shrew (with Elizabeth Taylor as Kate) ...Shakespeare, 'nuff said.
Shakespeare in Love ...Judy Dench alone makes this film worth seeing, plus Gwynith Paltrow's ta-tas.
Kingdom of Heaven ...Maybe not top 5, editing sucked, acurracy was suspect, and acting was questionable.
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Sun, June 4, 2006 - 2:07 PMTwo recent films worth mentioning:
Good Night, and Good Luck (Joseph McCarthy vs. Edward R. Murrow)
Joyeaux Noel (the Christmas Truce of 1914)
Both well worth seeing.
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Thu, June 8, 2006 - 9:23 PMJust finished A Rose for the Crown by Anne Easter Smith. It's a Richard III revisionist novel and I really enjoyed it. It's a bit fluffy, and told through the eyes of a researched possible/probably mistress, and mother of two of his recognized bastard children.
Overall, I really enjoyed the research into the life and times of those who weren't exactly gentry, and not exactly peasants. Definitely worth the read if you have a taste for Richard revised...(which I do)
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Mon, September 28, 2009 - 8:45 PMAnother late entry
Yes to 'The Devils Whore' That was WONDERFUL...I fell for everyone. And the strong female lead made it deep and riveting. WOW.
Other ones with a strong female lead, strong not mush:
Moll Flanders, BBC TV series 1996....totally wonderful...old England.
KAMASUTRA a tale of love. This is beyond beautiful!...filmed in India...tragic.
A Dangerous Beauty...the courtesans of Venice....lovely.
Memoirs Of A Geisha...surreal and passionate.
Miss Pettigrew Lives for a day...the depression..funny and good.
Tristan And Isolde...Britain and Ireland...beautiful and tragic.
King Arther 2004...realistic to the actual times...intelligent...good.
The Kingdom Of Heaven..12th century France, Abelard and Eloise...very good, very tragic....very true.
Desperate Romantics..BBC TV series .About the pre raphaelites...and their models...sexy, tragic
And then there's:
Troy...good...um...well..yup..sexy
Little Big Man...American Indians and settlers, through one mans life...great..tragic
The Three Musketeers...1973...sexy...fun
Wuthering Heights...with Lauwrence Olivier...very very good...tragic...duh
Rome...HBO series...FABULOUS
The Tudors...Showtime series...Fabulous too.
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Mon, September 28, 2009 - 8:51 PMI suppose since this is a 'dead tribe' no one will ever appreciate my post...ah well.
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