http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#ce78fd31-aa6a-4cc2-ba6d-1aca7709a212 Late...but never the less read the whole thread. I love a good read...too few and far between. I loved Mary Renault. The Persian Boy, about Alexander the greats 2 male lovers. Good on history, and keeps you pulled in. The King Must Die, awsome story about Crete and Theseus. Then the Bull From The Sea, the sequel. Also very good. I would love to get a well written well documented story or two on the life of courtesans. Or stories about women's lives in the ancient middle east. Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:50:46 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#ce78fd31-aa6a-4cc2-ba6d-1aca7709a212 Moonmom 2009-09-29T02:50:46Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#0e485a4d-17de-4b4b-8d8d-c5570fd94bc2 Oh, I am doing my best to get ahold of other Alison Weir novels. ^_^ She is fantastic, I agree! Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:18:05 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#0e485a4d-17de-4b4b-8d8d-c5570fd94bc2 Vashka 2007-08-01T02:18:05Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#4e0a77ee-584f-479f-bb2a-a03de0f5622d Oh man Alison Weir is awesome. Try The Princes in the Tower for the story of the two English princes imprisoned (and eventually killed?) by Richard III. She has her history down pat, and makes a compelling case for Richard as the murderer! Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:30:47 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#4e0a77ee-584f-479f-bb2a-a03de0f5622d Baubo 2007-07-31T19:30:47Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#ee10a40a-8a59-46ed-a7e7-b1910adba10d Phillipa Gregory is awesome but... Have you read The Virgin Earth? I hated that one by her... Didn't follow through, ended abruptly... She could've left out the whole Jamestown part and it would have made a better story! ~Baubo~ Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:19:57 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#ee10a40a-8a59-46ed-a7e7-b1910adba10d Baubo 2007-07-31T19:19:57Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#e8d1b58d-1569-4252-8a91-546b13903fac Oooooh I loved the Red Tent too... My friends and I reference it all the time for Moon Cycles lol. Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:16:07 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#e8d1b58d-1569-4252-8a91-546b13903fac Baubo 2007-07-31T19:16:07Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#5306df05-a413-4596-a4fa-ec53cd9f279a Alison Weir's "Innocent Traitor", Emma Donoghue's "Slammerkin" and "Life Mask", Michael Cox's "Meaning of Night" Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:40:06 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#5306df05-a413-4596-a4fa-ec53cd9f279a Vashka 2007-07-10T18:40:06Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#a30d2833-f50b-465f-aa01-f800b56cf954 I think it sounds like a great premise...in Edward Rutherford's Sarum there is a chapter that follows the plagues arrival to Britain and it's all told through the point of view of fleas and rodents...great perception. I'm going to pre order World Without End, definitely. Thu, 12 Apr 2007 00:59:28 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#a30d2833-f50b-465f-aa01-f800b56cf954 Christy Hussein 2007-04-12T00:59:28Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#88d3d53e-7cb6-4801-994c-b18c39c48d59 It is called World Without End. Read more about it here. It is due out in October! http://www.ken-follett.com/ Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:54:51 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#88d3d53e-7cb6-4801-994c-b18c39c48d59 Elizabeth 2007-04-11T13:54:51Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#663c386f-615a-47e5-af2f-c8486b6ac128 It was on here earlier in the this thread. Now I am intrigued. I haven't read Pillars but now I think as soon as I am done with Labyrinth (which I also highly reccommend) I will search it out. Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:23:37 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#663c386f-615a-47e5-af2f-c8486b6ac128 BratCat 2007-04-11T13:23:37Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#368fa3a1-3323-4c88-a30c-bfc77a3b37a6 I heard Follet was working on a sequel to Pillars...has anyone else heard that? Wed, 11 Apr 2007 07:34:17 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#368fa3a1-3323-4c88-a30c-bfc77a3b37a6 Christy Hussein 2007-04-11T07:34:17Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#1b99921d-190d-4948-8288-aeb61264fea4 Pillars of the Earth was great! Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:58:00 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#1b99921d-190d-4948-8288-aeb61264fea4 Elizabeth 2007-04-11T02:58:00Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#e7d67457-30a5-4b6d-a40c-199bfbfffdf8 Yeah...The Source is epic Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:08:57 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#e7d67457-30a5-4b6d-a40c-199bfbfffdf8 BratCat 2007-04-11T01:08:57Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#3bfc3da5-8542-4934-a9b2-5c35113def01 OK..perhaps I should read the thread in it's entirty but STILL...THE SOURCE.... Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:55:40 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#3bfc3da5-8542-4934-a9b2-5c35113def01 David 2007-04-11T00:55:40Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#d9142c63-9108-47a9-926c-ead97769c051 How sad.... No mention of James Michener or Kenneth Follet ANYwhere MICHENER's CENTENNIAL, POLAND, THE SOURCE, MEXICO, CHESAPEAKE KENNETH FOLLET's PILLARS OF THE EARTH!! Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:52:48 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#d9142c63-9108-47a9-926c-ead97769c051 David 2007-04-11T00:52:48Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#3d7338ce-046d-4d87-a95f-ae4775772a2e It looks like i am reviving another thread :-) I didn't see it mentioned here, but maybe i missed it. Any of the books by Margaret George Particularly first: "The autobiography of Henry the Eighth, with notes by his fool" but a close second that someone did mention is "The Memoirs of Cleopatra". I was visiting rome when I read that book. Very timely and maybe why it is close to my heart. i got to visit some of the places being described in the book. So many new things to look at here! Thanks for the tips...now back to my reading Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:49:30 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#3d7338ce-046d-4d87-a95f-ae4775772a2e BratCat 2007-01-30T21:49:30Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#084649de-f4a8-4def-826d-bc671df6355b Am I the only Mary Renault fan? "Bull from the Sea" "The King Must Die" "The Persian Boy" Sat, 20 May 2006 19:38:40 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#084649de-f4a8-4def-826d-bc671df6355b Myles 2006-05-20T19:38:40Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#988edb34-1bdd-45eb-9d26-fab8a561176f yep yep...I've read everything she's written and it's always a pleasure... My favorites: Here Be Dragons Sunne In Splendor Sat, 20 May 2006 06:02:33 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#988edb34-1bdd-45eb-9d26-fab8a561176f Christy Hussein 2006-05-20T06:02:33Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#d3501f3f-5040-4114-8d3a-b3c4a925592b anything sharon kay penman writes is great she writes a non-tutor history of england Fri, 19 May 2006 20:38:09 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#d3501f3f-5040-4114-8d3a-b3c4a925592b sally 2006-05-19T20:38:09Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#da462962-edd0-48f6-ae02-49c6d952e793 I just finished I, Claudius, and have started Claudius the God...absolutely imperative reading for anyone with an interest in Roman histories. Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:16:38 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#da462962-edd0-48f6-ae02-49c6d952e793 Christy Hussein 2006-03-16T09:16:38Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#1531800d-4af6-48a0-a01d-cc188da45936 Oh, yes! Absolutely agree that Robert Graves two works, "I, Claudius," and "Claudius the God" are great novels in his genre also. Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:58:51 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#1531800d-4af6-48a0-a01d-cc188da45936 Gregorio 2006-03-16T03:58:51Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#f86fd9ef-7be0-4333-b232-7c1cb6bc1902 Rosemary Sutcliff's "Sword at Sunset," and Cecelia Holland's "Until the Sun Falls." The former is an historical interpretation of the Arthur legend, and the latter is the Mongol invasion of Russia and Europe from the Mongolian perspective primarily. I enjoyed the more imperfect aspect of an historical Arthur that Sutcliff provided. The second book was a big reason why I ended up going to Mongolia in 1993. Greg Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:57:08 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#f86fd9ef-7be0-4333-b232-7c1cb6bc1902 Gregorio 2006-03-16T03:57:08Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#73a19bc3-8a13-49ca-9e7f-45d160f31980 Hi there. I've never posted on this board before, but I'm interested in this thread. I'm totally with you on Philipa Gregory books. I've read and enjoyed all the ones you mentioned - never want them to end. If you're into that period, you must read Susan Kay, 'Legacy' - about Queen Elizabeth I. Absolutely amazing read which sparked off my obsession with Elizabeth. X Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:56:07 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#73a19bc3-8a13-49ca-9e7f-45d160f31980 Miss P "Rachel Silver" 2006-03-15T21:56:07Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#3cb451cd-de52-4475-adc3-413731f54252 >>just read this! it was amazing. what an incredible telling that story. Which one are you referring to? The Red Tent? Tue, 03 Jan 2006 01:04:37 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#3cb451cd-de52-4475-adc3-413731f54252 Elizabeth 2006-01-03T01:04:37Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#8e7daca0-fc65-4e4f-87ea-ea8f51809382 i just read this! it was amazing. what an incredible telling that story. Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:15:28 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#8e7daca0-fc65-4e4f-87ea-ea8f51809382 ophelia 2006-01-02T23:15:28Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#f47527a0-e0d9-478d-8943-5fcba475fd76 I've been into the Turtledove's USA/CSA WWI-WWII series. He seems to be rushing them into print, tho, with mistakes a careful editor should have caught. Mon, 02 Jan 2006 02:38:46 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#f47527a0-e0d9-478d-8943-5fcba475fd76 Scott 2006-01-02T02:38:46Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#f4364f75-c3e8-4620-9f53-4d121b044b42 Is he ever going to write that Flashman in the Civil War book? Mon, 02 Jan 2006 02:27:56 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#f4364f75-c3e8-4620-9f53-4d121b044b42 Scott 2006-01-02T02:27:56Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#6acbae7f-a9ea-4c0c-9b1e-443a481ff21d Mika Waltari's: The Egyptian Gore Vidal: Creation, Julian, All of his novels about America: 1876, Lincoln, Burr, The Golden Age Eiji Yoshikawa: Taiko, Musashi Gary Jennings: Aztec There are so many. I will add more as I remember them. Thu, 27 Oct 2005 05:42:50 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#6acbae7f-a9ea-4c0c-9b1e-443a481ff21d Curious George 2005-10-27T05:42:50Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#28e4d303-f3d7-4f8c-9792-8f347e03e186 "Poland" by James A. Michener Either that or the Herman Wouk's "Winds of War" and "War and Remembrance" Mon, 22 Aug 2005 04:56:21 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#28e4d303-f3d7-4f8c-9792-8f347e03e186 Matthew 2005-08-22T04:56:21Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#af805e0a-2d6f-4ed4-88e9-86f66bcb8d14 I forgot to mention the “Flashman Papers” by George Macdonald Fraser. They are a series of books, written in memoir form, covering the life and exploits of one Harry Flashman. The first book aptly entitled “Flashman” begins where “Tom Brown's School days” by Thomas Hughes, has Harry expelled from Rugby school for drunkenness. Many other subsequent books follow Harry through his career in the British army during the Middle to late 1800’s. All of the books have received critical acclaim. I think they’re just plain funny, fun and historically educational. http://www.harryflashman.org.uk/ (Cover art downloaded into picture area) Sat, 20 Aug 2005 09:19:18 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#af805e0a-2d6f-4ed4-88e9-86f66bcb8d14 <==ЯJ==> 2005-08-20T09:19:18Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#a40be5f9-24d3-40ca-88f9-b0838b37af58 From the perspective of a modern woman I can see how her writing would be considered depressing. I have never seen The House of Mirth, although I have read it. It is hard for us to imagine a woman being "dropped" from society strictly because of money (or the lack thereof) and because she has a few minor indescretions. However, in the age of "high Victorian hyprocrisy" that is exactly what would have happened. The Age of Innocense is perhaps her best know novel. It was made into a movie with Wynona Rider and Michele Pfeiffer. The movie was pretty true to the book. It, again, dealt with woman's place in society and how easy it was to be cast aside. She had a dark view of the world she lived in but it was probably accurate. I love Jane Austen! Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:37:29 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#a40be5f9-24d3-40ca-88f9-b0838b37af58 Annabelle 2005-07-28T21:37:29Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#a1173842-692e-4e92-8de4-4ef424b9a208 >>Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote the Sherlock Holmes novels. Just goes to show how sorely lacking my education was. I have never read Sherlock Holmes! I'll have to pick some up. I've never read Edith Wharton either, though I've read all Jane Austen's works, over and over. I did see The House of Mirth and have to say that THAT was a depressing movie. Is that indicative of her writing? Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:06:43 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#a1173842-692e-4e92-8de4-4ef424b9a208 Elizabeth 2005-07-28T14:06:43Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#09a50738-2fa7-4785-be8f-020620353a33 Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote the Sherlock Holmes novels. High Victorian is the period and he does it very well. I love novels by Edith Wharton. Although they are not true "historic" novels she writes very well and captures all the undercurrents of late Victorian society. My favorite is "The Buccaneers" about young newly rich American girls who go to England in search of a place in society and husbands. Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:37:21 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#09a50738-2fa7-4785-be8f-020620353a33 Annabelle 2005-07-28T09:37:21Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#fdd2b220-b45b-4342-8dd6-6edbc9b7aaf4 >>Sir Arthur Conan Doyle I've never read him. What are his books about? What era? Thu, 28 Jul 2005 03:41:12 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#fdd2b220-b45b-4342-8dd6-6edbc9b7aaf4 Elizabeth 2005-07-28T03:41:12Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#485da489-3785-4c79-9d13-64b5b9ae63f9 Author: Sir Arthur Conan Doyle Sir Nigel The White Company Incredibly well researched and well written. Thu, 28 Jul 2005 00:49:24 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#485da489-3785-4c79-9d13-64b5b9ae63f9 Anton 2005-07-28T00:49:24Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#a3b97394-dafc-49b4-8cc7-6006d276d7c6 Thanks for all the recs, I see a trip to the library in my future. I'll second Guy Gavriel Kay. I really love nearly all his books, and even though they aren't strictly historically accurate, they are still very good. My favorite historical fiction author is Judith Merkle Riley. Everything she writes is gold, but my favorite is 'The Oracle Glass' which centers on the witches of Paris who were tried and executed after years of supplying the nobility with abortions and inheritance powers! Also, I recently discovered 'The Canterbury Papers' by Judith Healy, which was very good. Fri, 22 Jul 2005 03:33:49 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#a3b97394-dafc-49b4-8cc7-6006d276d7c6 Nicole 2005-07-22T03:33:49Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#60ed0b8e-683d-4de4-bbf9-0663a5fb5213 Ohh, I loved, loved Snow Falling On Cedars! I didn't know if I would think it would be a male adventure but it was perfect. I am surprised it has not been made into a movie (but please a good one...) A similiar story by one of the greatest writers ever in my opinion is House Made of Dawn by N. Scott Momaday. Similiar in that it aproaches racism & lostness of men post WW2. My current read along that time is John P Marquand. I loved 'So Little Time' though I need to read it again bcz I could not tell if it was meant to be a anti war statement or not. It was written & published quickly at the beginning of the war in Europe. Before that he was actually in China & writing as the Japanese invaded China his Mr Moto books. I read Mr Motos's 3 Aces, 3 novellas, & they were great. Supposedly Hollywood made many pics of the Mr Moto series which would be interesting bcz he writes like he is on a tight rope between the 3 cultures - America, Japan & China He was famous for The Late Mr Apley, set in turn of the 20th century Boston, but I am having difficulty plowing through it ..... I agree Elisabeth, The Red Tent was wonderful. It has gotten me interested in learning more factual info of the bibical eras & buying books when I run across them in thrift stores (where I get 95% of my books.....) LOL Readers Digest evidently made it easier I have just found out I couldn't find it fo the title but The Four Queens was excellent; based on a true story of an Irish girl enslaved & eventually queen of an Mid East country. It also revolves around a dwarf that was a famous English man that was the Sultans right hand that I would like to know more about him. I guess he was quite the courtier in a few countries...... I read a book about a French Jamaican woman that was similiarly captured & was the last Sultana of ?turkish area... It was written by the woman who wrote the book on eeehhh the slave woman/lover of Jefferson?? A friend ons it so I don't rember the names but the authors research was intense & meticulous bcz she had received so much riff from her book on Sally (?).... sure would like a copy for myself..... My general favorites are Kenneth Roberts that wrote on early America too. Lydia Baily is about the Haitian Revolution against France but with Americas involvement (it was a movie too but no one remembers it but me I think...) & the Arundel series on the American Revolution. His research is so thorough that he makes a scary case for Benedict Arnold that sure wasn't taught in my history classes. & Han Suyin, who is just a incredible story herself -Love Is A Many Splendor, The Crippled Tree etc. The Enchantress is fantasy historical fiction of a girl who goes from Switzerland, through the mid east & into southren China area, Burma, becomes a high concubine lives through the civil wars there & home again. Fascinating the information on the trade routes & travels in 1750s Ilike Chines historical novels too but I'll just leave Pearl S Bucks name for that bcz she's the tops as a compassionate American for the Chinese person. Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:01:29 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#60ed0b8e-683d-4de4-bbf9-0663a5fb5213 Gi Gi 2005-07-21T18:01:29Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#3f4b26f7-1766-47a8-a8b5-b7fcce76d902 >>but my all time favorite author would be Bernard Cornwell. I've never read any Bernard Cornwell, but thanks for the link. Wow. He's prolific. I'll have to give him a whirl. It is always nice to have an author you like write LOTS of stuff. And I love Arthurian stuff. Mon, 04 Jul 2005 15:57:30 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#3f4b26f7-1766-47a8-a8b5-b7fcce76d902 Elizabeth 2005-07-04T15:57:30Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#71c46464-4067-4c72-8175-cb84a4daf993 "Pillars of the Earth" is one of my favorites. I must have owned about a half a dozen of so copies which I lent and lost, but my all time favorite author would be Bernard Cornwell. He has a few series with really well developed characters. Since someone mentioned "Le Mort d'Artur" I thought I would mention his Arthur series of three books. It has a definitely less romantic perspective. Arthur is very human, lancelot is despicable, and the hero is just a spearman sworn to Arthur. You laugh, you cry, you smell the wood smoke and watch (in your imagination) the lice crawling through the beards. I could read them over and over again from any page anywhere in any of the books. His other series are also worth reading. http://www.bernardcornwell.net/ P O RJ Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:36:06 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#71c46464-4067-4c72-8175-cb84a4daf993 <==ЯJ==> 2005-07-04T10:36:06Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#f874a4a3-88b6-4593-95a6-5dcd7ee0505d That sounds awesome! I didn't know Follett wrote anything other than spy novels. Have to check that out. I know this is an old topic...thought I'd responded already with some faves, or maybe it was another similar thread in this tribe... So some faves I have actually *read* (have tons on my shelves, like the one I mentioned that I haven't yet!) are: All Things Are Lights -- [or maybe it's Light, on dial-up here @ work and not gonna take the time to look it up right now). By Robert Shea. Great book which starts with the end of the Cathar Crusade. The main character is a troubadour, from Languedoc. His true love is a Cathar gal who becomes a cleric. He saves her from the final siege and then hides her in Paris. She won't have him as she's foresworn such relationships. So his next love is the wife of his mortal enemy, leader of the French/Church forces against the Cathars. They go on Crusade to the holy land together and mayhem ensues. Also touches on the Knights Templar, briefly, as one of the main character's best friends is one. The Proud Breed - by Celeste De Blasis - A lot of bodice-ripper type romance. But the main character is a half-Californio/half-Anglo girl born in the early-ish 19th century. She gets involved in politics to a certain extent as California becomes part of the US. Then she becomes a merchant in San Francisco during the '49er boom days. It continues on until around the turn of the 20th century. Some silly romance and steamy stuff, as mentioned, but the historical research and details are great! Snow Falling on the Cedars - might not be considered by most to fit the category. But I just recently finished this and it is a picture of the post-WWII Northwest US. The anti-Japanese sentiment, the internment camp experience, etc. Very interesting and a good story. I'm rather fond of Doctorow, particularly Loon Lake and Ragtime. I've actually not read Billy Bathgate or The Book of Daniel yet, but have read Waterworks. Anyone else like him? I won't say they're necessarily faves, but must say that I was pleasantly suprised by Fern Michael's Vegas series. A friend gave them to me several years ago and they do have some great historical detail in them about Las Vegas. They are a bit on the soap-opera-y, romance side of things plot-wise, but for their size, an quick read (about 2400 pages across three mass-market paperbacks) and not too bad. And don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to down that kind of writing, for any who might enjoy it, it's just not usually my thing. Different strokes for different folks. That's all I can think of at the moment, but will post more as I think of them. I do have to ask, out of being too lazy to start a new thread... has anyone read Caleb Carr's mysteries set in late 19th century New York City? Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:54:59 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#f874a4a3-88b6-4593-95a6-5dcd7ee0505d Sandy 2005-06-14T16:54:59Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#47db1ee5-85bb-4fdd-83f6-64b8116bb4ad >>Does Follet have any other novels that are Historical Fiction? I don't think so, however he is writing the sequel to Pillars of the Earth now, due out in 2007! Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:11:51 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#47db1ee5-85bb-4fdd-83f6-64b8116bb4ad Elizabeth 2005-06-14T00:11:51Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#0866eb63-527d-48a5-87ca-303a611dc285 Oh My! THAT sounds fabulous! I am going to check those out as I ravished Pilars of the Earth in about two days and was left with that empty feeling of being gluttonous with a book and then left with the want for more and there is NONE...does anyone else do that? Does Follet have any other novels that are Historical Fiction? Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:49:02 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#0866eb63-527d-48a5-87ca-303a611dc285 Christy Hussein 2005-06-13T23:49:02Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#e66c93cf-82a3-481e-a55e-dbe4d54f52c4 Yeah, that was a great book. Another sort of along the same line was The Sarantine Mosaic series by Guy Gavriel Kay including Sailing to Sarantium Lord of Emperors. Granted they aren't officially historic fiction, but he has put a lot of good research into them. Very enjoyable set of works about a mosaic artist in 6th century Byzantium. Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:03:07 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#e66c93cf-82a3-481e-a55e-dbe4d54f52c4 Elizabeth 2005-06-13T22:03:07Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#15b57ac3-a0a7-468f-9f44-67c2b6bc4591 oh, here's a GREAT one. Ken Follet's The Pillars of the Earth, about stone masons in the middle ages building those huge cathedrals. As a builder the descriptions and problems encountered by the stoneworkers excite me; as "an" historian, I'm engaged. There's a companion picture book called Pillars of the Almighty which has photos of many of the grand cathedrals talked about in the text, and actual drawings of actual churches, but the story is fictionalized. A very engaging book; I couldn't put it down. Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:52:15 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#15b57ac3-a0a7-468f-9f44-67c2b6bc4591 marklar 2005-06-13T21:52:15Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#e5d660c9-0421-4442-be33-156ef21dcf90 The Other Boelyn Girl is fabulous, very engaging. Read it soon when you have lots of time and won't have to put it down often! Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:13:12 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#e5d660c9-0421-4442-be33-156ef21dcf90 Christy Hussein 2005-06-13T18:13:12Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#0bf96167-f09a-47cc-a74c-dfa91989df13 I've bought several lately, but have been too busy to read any of 'em!! I know that one is The Other Boelyn Girl, but can't recall the others... I'll have to post from home soon when I can peruse my shelves and get titles/scenarios. Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:51:39 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#0bf96167-f09a-47cc-a74c-dfa91989df13 Sandy 2005-06-13T16:51:39Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#01531fd0-5d20-4bf5-87d3-009737e48488 No worries...I loved that one too. Sat, 11 Jun 2005 03:44:06 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#01531fd0-5d20-4bf5-87d3-009737e48488 Christy Hussein 2005-06-11T03:44:06Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#f62d4ab1-e907-4da9-be07-e5ae4af81a05 Well, we are all too busy reading historic fiction novels. :-) Sat, 11 Jun 2005 01:52:31 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#f62d4ab1-e907-4da9-be07-e5ae4af81a05 Elizabeth 2005-06-11T01:52:31Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#04d4d45b-043b-41f4-8e5f-90e61f6f36b8 oh, my god! I just realized this thread is a year old! Oh, well. Sorry to have made you look. Sat, 11 Jun 2005 01:45:49 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#04d4d45b-043b-41f4-8e5f-90e61f6f36b8 marklar 2005-06-11T01:45:49Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#f58e5d68-1bc3-4048-9dd8-ff0dd456b7da I sure did enjoy Barbara Tuchman's A Distant Mirror. I guess past a certain point, everything is fiction: all history is a story told. I like mine well-researched and true to the akashic, but in the absence of supporting documents, fill-in yarn will do. Sat, 11 Jun 2005 01:44:01 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#f58e5d68-1bc3-4048-9dd8-ff0dd456b7da marklar 2005-06-11T01:44:01Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#181ce435-30b5-420f-afed-7b52e596323c I have the entire set! My grandmother read incessantly and she gave them all to me years ago. I've read them all through beginning to end at least twice in about 15 years. They are well researched and it is really incredible the way John Jakes connects the characters to real people. It's a great overview of American history. I also love the Flashman series by George MacDonald Fraser, another author who does an amazing job with research and connecting the characters to real people. Memoirs of Cleopatra and The Other Boleyn Girl are awesome too, but I can't remember the authors right now. Also Anything by Colleen McCullough (Thorn Birds, Caesar's Women, etc) is great too. Tue, 24 May 2005 17:27:09 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#181ce435-30b5-420f-afed-7b52e596323c ophelia 2005-05-24T17:27:09Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#267abc37-b6a9-46ec-8ce9-96a6cdd8ce48 I wondered when someone would start a historical fiction tribe... I have been fixed on England 1500 to 1700 for months now, reading everything I can find. I really enjoyed these Phillipa Gregory books, as well as the Robin Maxwell series. The Queen's Fool The Virgins Lover The Other Boleyn Girl The Secret Diary of Anne Boleyn Virgin: Prelude to the Throne The Queen's Bastard Fri, 21 Jan 2005 00:41:27 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#267abc37-b6a9-46ec-8ce9-96a6cdd8ce48 Rebecca~ 2005-01-21T00:41:27Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#ee0110d7-4934-4fdc-af88-5b2598445ce6 The Book of Kells takes place roughly now and eighth century AD... nifty... Thanks for teh website.. I will add it to my list of historic piracy websites I prowl for info.. heehee Thu, 20 May 2004 17:10:41 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#ee0110d7-4934-4fdc-af88-5b2598445ce6 Lily 2004-05-20T17:10:41Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#9de9fb68-e023-4e2a-ac56-a3457ea3af75 Morgan Llwellyn is great. I've read quite a bit of her stuff, though it has been a while. I haven't read the Book of Kells. Not the historic fiction one anyway. Sounds interesting. In what time period is it? Do you remember? You also said you were interested in pirate HF. Have you checked out this web site? http://www.piratesinfo.com/ Thu, 20 May 2004 17:08:05 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#9de9fb68-e023-4e2a-ac56-a3457ea3af75 Elizabeth 2004-05-20T17:08:05Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#54951878-61a0-4023-95e0-61ae750e93e8 Anything I have read by Morgan Llwellyn has been pretty great "Lion of Ireland" about Brian Boru, "Druids" that touches in on Vercingetorix, "The Horse Goddess" about Epona and the early Gauls... "Bard" (I think) about Amergin, one of Ireland's greatest bards! My husband introduced me to a historic fiction about early Ireland called "The Book of Kells" by RA MacAvoy,about a guy that gets brought back through time thanks to his talent at drawing spirals... very cool Thu, 20 May 2004 01:19:15 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#54951878-61a0-4023-95e0-61ae750e93e8 Lily 2004-05-20T01:19:15Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#35dcc608-1c93-4f3a-9336-c0fc2df11411 The Red Tent was a wonderful story. I also liked Orson Scott Card's Women of Genesis series. Wed, 19 May 2004 19:03:47 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#35dcc608-1c93-4f3a-9336-c0fc2df11411 Elizabeth 2004-05-19T19:03:47Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#96ea6448-5480-477a-b555-2c1ffedd1e64 I liked the sequel, Angel of Darkness. I was hoping he would do more books with those characters...maybe he will. I liked how he used the voice of a secondary character from The Alienst to tell the 2nd book. I hope he does another book with the voice of the female character. I liked her. I liked how in The Angel of Darkness, we learned about trials and such before there were rules for media coverage, etc. But that SCIFI THING SUCKED!!!! I couldn't even bring myself to finish it. It is so bad. But I know he just wrote some book on the whole terrorist thing..like Terrorism Throughout the Ages, or something to that effect. Wed, 19 May 2004 18:57:06 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#96ea6448-5480-477a-b555-2c1ffedd1e64 Mo-Ren Ishii 2004-05-19T18:57:06Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#d9a35c27-66a6-454d-85b9-7f584c741e44 I haven't read them but, loving epics, wonder if any of you can recommend (or slam) the John Jakes saga...The Bastards, The Titans, The Warriors, etc. ?? Wed, 19 May 2004 13:35:54 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#d9a35c27-66a6-454d-85b9-7f584c741e44 Michael David 2004-05-19T13:35:54Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#fe7539b9-9b61-4846-9da0-85f19506eed3 The Red Tent by Anita Diamant... it made me feel kinda glad to be a woman, sometimes... Tue, 18 May 2004 22:44:18 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#fe7539b9-9b61-4846-9da0-85f19506eed3 Lily 2004-05-18T22:44:18Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#620c034f-65bd-4bc4-80f6-e1b8640a0e70 "Enchantment" is the story of Sleeping Beauty, set in about the 10th Century, with some fun time-travelling and a rather large role for Baba Yaga. Way cool, and does some very fun things with early Russian mythology. Sorry, I've only read Mallory. Wed, 12 May 2004 02:15:35 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#620c034f-65bd-4bc4-80f6-e1b8640a0e70 Coach C 2004-05-12T02:15:35Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#3f97d9ae-5937-4e52-85ed-0a4d32fb169e It's good, but the sequel's not too hot. Anybody check out Carr's scifi thing? What the hell was it called? Tue, 11 May 2004 13:56:15 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#3f97d9ae-5937-4e52-85ed-0a4d32fb169e $item.owner.firstName 2004-05-11T13:56:15Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#448045af-cdc9-461f-bb52-3c08db0b11be I haven't read this yet. I had a friend who carried it around for over a year trying to read it. But he wasn't very literary. It's good, eh? I'll have to pick it up! Tue, 11 May 2004 13:19:33 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#448045af-cdc9-461f-bb52-3c08db0b11be Elizabeth 2004-05-11T13:19:33Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#64ce572f-5968-476e-a229-93a14a91c515 What is Enchantment about? I really enjoyed his "Pastwatch", the one about Columbus. It was more of a time travel thing, but the history (or alternate history) was really well done. I also enjoyed the women of the bible series, I read "Sarah" and "Rebekah." And "Le Mort d'Artur!" Of course! Have you read the "Mabinogion?" (the Welsh version of Arthur, etc.) or perhaps the novelized version by Evangeline Walton? Tue, 11 May 2004 13:17:37 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#64ce572f-5968-476e-a229-93a14a91c515 Elizabeth 2004-05-11T13:17:37Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#8d8563b0-a31e-469c-be56-51e3730f6d4f All I gotta say is: Caleb Carr's "The Alienist" Yeaaaaaaaaah. Tue, 11 May 2004 05:53:28 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#8d8563b0-a31e-469c-be56-51e3730f6d4f Mo-Ren Ishii 2004-05-11T05:53:28Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#532176ed-cfeb-4ef8-8bae-0b8685595e3d My wife liked OSC's Moromon book, and I dug his althist thing 'bout Columbus. Thu, 06 May 2004 16:21:24 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#532176ed-cfeb-4ef8-8bae-0b8685595e3d $item.owner.firstName 2004-05-06T16:21:24Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#e619c3cf-9450-4178-bf4e-007d6ac2d443 Jean Plaidy Thu, 06 May 2004 16:15:32 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#e619c3cf-9450-4178-bf4e-007d6ac2d443 Coach C 2004-05-06T16:15:32Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#ba9d254f-b5b8-4cd0-875d-a6158df61cb7 "Le Mort d'Artur" by Thomas Mallory I don't know if it counts, but "Enchantment" by Orson Scott Card Thu, 06 May 2004 16:15:11 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#ba9d254f-b5b8-4cd0-875d-a6158df61cb7 Coach C 2004-05-06T16:15:11Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#be813227-9450-408c-a53b-c180f87892da I dig the Clavell stuff, H.M. Turtletaub (Harry Turtledove) non-althist stuff, and, uh, the gal who wrote The Sun in Splendor, and a bunch of other things. Thu, 06 May 2004 14:39:38 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#be813227-9450-408c-a53b-c180f87892da $item.owner.firstName 2004-05-06T14:39:38Z http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#3be345f8-25ba-4c5e-808a-16eabab9cb13 There are many, but I have to say my all time favorite is still I, Claudius by Robert Graves, followed closely by Here be Dragons by Sharon Kay Penman. Thu, 06 May 2004 14:27:46 GMT http://historicfiction.tribe.net/thread/5fdfc06f-709d-4500-81ec-26f6d35fd8b3#3be345f8-25ba-4c5e-808a-16eabab9cb13 Elizabeth 2004-05-06T14:27:46Z