Favorite Historic Fiction Novels?

topic posted Thu, May 6, 2004 - 7:27 AM by  Elisabeth
There are many, but I have to say my all time favorite is still I, Claudius by Robert Graves, followed closely by Here be Dragons by Sharon Kay Penman.
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Elisabeth
Seattle
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    Thu, May 6, 2004 - 9:15 AM
    "Le Mort d'Artur" by Thomas Mallory

    I don't know if it counts, but "Enchantment" by Orson Scott Card
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      Tue, May 11, 2004 - 6:17 AM
      What is Enchantment about? I really enjoyed his "Pastwatch", the one about Columbus. It was more of a time travel thing, but the history (or alternate history) was really well done. I also enjoyed the women of the bible series, I read "Sarah" and "Rebekah."

      And "Le Mort d'Artur!" Of course! Have you read the "Mabinogion?" (the Welsh version of Arthur, etc.) or perhaps the novelized version by Evangeline Walton?
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        Tue, May 11, 2004 - 7:15 PM
        "Enchantment" is the story of Sleeping Beauty, set in about the 10th Century, with some fun time-travelling and a rather large role for Baba Yaga. Way cool, and does some very fun things with early Russian mythology.

        Sorry, I've only read Mallory.
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    Mon, May 10, 2004 - 10:53 PM
    All I gotta say is:
    Caleb Carr's "The Alienist"

    Yeaaaaaaaaah.
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      Tue, May 11, 2004 - 6:19 AM
      I haven't read this yet. I had a friend who carried it around for over a year trying to read it. But he wasn't very literary. It's good, eh? I'll have to pick it up!
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        Tue, May 11, 2004 - 6:56 AM
        It's good, but the sequel's not too hot. Anybody check out Carr's scifi thing? What the hell was it called?
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          Wed, May 19, 2004 - 11:57 AM
          I liked the sequel, Angel of Darkness. I was hoping he would do more books with those characters...maybe he will. I liked how he used the voice of a secondary character from The Alienst to tell the 2nd book. I hope he does another book with the voice of the female character. I liked her. I liked how in The Angel of Darkness, we learned about trials and such before there were rules for media coverage, etc.

          But that SCIFI THING SUCKED!!!! I couldn't even bring myself to finish it. It is so bad. But I know he just wrote some book on the whole terrorist thing..like Terrorism Throughout the Ages, or something to that effect.
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    Tue, May 18, 2004 - 3:44 PM
    The Red Tent by Anita Diamant... it made me feel kinda glad to be a woman, sometimes...
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      Wed, May 19, 2004 - 6:35 AM
      I haven't read them but, loving epics, wonder if any of you can recommend (or slam) the John Jakes saga...The Bastards, The Titans, The Warriors, etc. ??
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        Tue, May 24, 2005 - 10:27 AM
        I have the entire set! My grandmother read incessantly and she gave them all to me years ago. I've read them all through beginning to end at least twice in about 15 years. They are well researched and it is really incredible the way John Jakes connects the characters to real people. It's a great overview of American history.
        I also love the Flashman series by George MacDonald Fraser, another author who does an amazing job with research and connecting the characters to real people. Memoirs of Cleopatra and The Other Boleyn Girl are awesome too, but I can't remember the authors right now. Also Anything by Colleen McCullough (Thorn Birds, Caesar's Women, etc) is great too.
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      Wed, May 19, 2004 - 12:03 PM
      The Red Tent was a wonderful story. I also liked Orson Scott Card's Women of Genesis series.
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        Wed, May 19, 2004 - 6:19 PM
        Anything I have read by Morgan Llwellyn has been pretty great "Lion of Ireland" about Brian Boru, "Druids" that touches in on Vercingetorix, "The Horse Goddess" about Epona and the early Gauls... "Bard" (I think) about Amergin, one of Ireland's greatest bards!
        My husband introduced me to a historic fiction about early Ireland called "The Book of Kells" by RA MacAvoy,about a guy that gets brought back through time thanks to his talent at drawing spirals... very cool
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          Thu, May 20, 2004 - 10:08 AM
          Morgan Llwellyn is great. I've read quite a bit of her stuff, though it has been a while.

          I haven't read the Book of Kells. Not the historic fiction one anyway. Sounds interesting. In what time period is it? Do you remember?

          You also said you were interested in pirate HF. Have you checked out this web site?

          www.piratesinfo.com/
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            Thu, May 20, 2004 - 10:10 AM
            The Book of Kells takes place roughly now and eighth century AD... nifty...
            Thanks for teh website.. I will add it to my list of historic piracy websites I prowl for info.. heehee
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              Thu, January 20, 2005 - 4:41 PM
              I wondered when someone would start a historical fiction tribe...

              I have been fixed on England 1500 to 1700 for months now, reading everything I can find.

              I really enjoyed these Phillipa Gregory books, as well as the Robin Maxwell series.

              The Queen's Fool
              The Virgins Lover
              The Other Boleyn Girl

              The Secret Diary of Anne Boleyn
              Virgin: Prelude to the Throne
              The Queen's Bastard
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                Wed, March 15, 2006 - 1:56 PM
                Hi there. I've never posted on this board before, but I'm interested in this thread.
                I'm totally with you on Philipa Gregory books. I've read and enjoyed all the ones you mentioned - never want them to end.
                If you're into that period, you must read Susan Kay, 'Legacy' - about Queen Elizabeth I. Absolutely amazing read which sparked off my obsession with Elizabeth.
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                  Tue, July 31, 2007 - 12:19 PM
                  Phillipa Gregory is awesome but... Have you read The Virgin Earth? I hated that one by her... Didn't follow through, ended abruptly... She could've left out the whole Jamestown part and it would have made a better story!
                  ~Baubo~
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    Mon, June 13, 2005 - 2:52 PM
    oh, here's a GREAT one. Ken Follet's The Pillars of the Earth, about stone masons in the middle ages building those huge cathedrals. As a builder the descriptions and problems encountered by the stoneworkers excite me; as "an" historian, I'm engaged. There's a companion picture book called Pillars of the Almighty which has photos of many of the grand cathedrals talked about in the text, and actual drawings of actual churches, but the story is fictionalized. A very engaging book; I couldn't put it down.
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      Mon, June 13, 2005 - 3:03 PM
      Yeah, that was a great book. Another sort of along the same line was The Sarantine Mosaic series by Guy Gavriel Kay including Sailing to Sarantium Lord of Emperors. Granted they aren't officially historic fiction, but he has put a lot of good research into them. Very enjoyable set of works about a mosaic artist in 6th century Byzantium.
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        Mon, June 13, 2005 - 4:49 PM
        Oh My! THAT sounds fabulous! I am going to check those out as I ravished Pilars of the Earth in about two days and was left with that empty feeling of being gluttonous with a book and then left with the want for more and there is NONE...does anyone else do that?

        Does Follet have any other novels that are Historical Fiction?
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          Mon, June 13, 2005 - 5:11 PM
          >>Does Follet have any other novels that are Historical Fiction?

          I don't think so, however he is writing the sequel to Pillars of the Earth now, due out in 2007!
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            Tue, June 14, 2005 - 9:54 AM
            That sounds awesome! I didn't know Follett wrote anything other than spy novels. Have to check that out.

            I know this is an old topic...thought I'd responded already with some faves, or maybe it was another similar thread in this tribe...

            So some faves I have actually *read* (have tons on my shelves, like the one I mentioned that I haven't yet!) are:

            All Things Are Lights -- [or maybe it's Light, on dial-up here @ work and not gonna take the time to look it up right now). By Robert Shea. Great book which starts with the end of the Cathar Crusade. The main character is a troubadour, from Languedoc. His true love is a Cathar gal who becomes a cleric. He saves her from the final siege and then hides her in Paris. She won't have him as she's foresworn such relationships. So his next love is the wife of his mortal enemy, leader of the French/Church forces against the Cathars. They go on Crusade to the holy land together and mayhem ensues. Also touches on the Knights Templar, briefly, as one of the main character's best friends is one.

            The Proud Breed - by Celeste De Blasis - A lot of bodice-ripper type romance. But the main character is a half-Californio/half-Anglo girl born in the early-ish 19th century. She gets involved in politics to a certain extent as California becomes part of the US. Then she becomes a merchant in San Francisco during the '49er boom days. It continues on until around the turn of the 20th century. Some silly romance and steamy stuff, as mentioned, but the historical research and details are great!

            Snow Falling on the Cedars - might not be considered by most to fit the category. But I just recently finished this and it is a picture of the post-WWII Northwest US. The anti-Japanese sentiment, the internment camp experience, etc. Very interesting and a good story.

            I'm rather fond of Doctorow, particularly Loon Lake and Ragtime. I've actually not read Billy Bathgate or The Book of Daniel yet, but have read Waterworks. Anyone else like him?

            I won't say they're necessarily faves, but must say that I was pleasantly suprised by Fern Michael's Vegas series. A friend gave them to me several years ago and they do have some great historical detail in them about Las Vegas. They are a bit on the soap-opera-y, romance side of things plot-wise, but for their size, an quick read (about 2400 pages across three mass-market paperbacks) and not too bad. And don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to down that kind of writing, for any who might enjoy it, it's just not usually my thing. Different strokes for different folks.

            That's all I can think of at the moment, but will post more as I think of them.

            I do have to ask, out of being too lazy to start a new thread... has anyone read Caleb Carr's mysteries set in late 19th century New York City?
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              Thu, July 21, 2005 - 11:01 AM
              Ohh, I loved, loved Snow Falling On Cedars! I didn't know if I would think it would be a male adventure but it was perfect. I am surprised it has not been made into a movie (but please a good one...)
              A similiar story by one of the greatest writers ever in my opinion is
              House Made of Dawn by N. Scott Momaday. Similiar in that it aproaches racism & lostness of men post WW2.

              My current read along that time is John P Marquand. I loved 'So Little Time' though I need to read it again bcz I could not tell if it was meant to be a anti war statement or not. It was written & published quickly at the beginning of the war in Europe. Before that he was actually in China & writing as the Japanese invaded China his Mr Moto books. I read Mr Motos's 3 Aces, 3 novellas, & they were great. Supposedly Hollywood made many pics of the Mr Moto series which would be interesting bcz he writes like he is on a tight rope between the 3 cultures - America, Japan & China
              He was famous for The Late Mr Apley, set in turn of the 20th century Boston, but I am having difficulty plowing through it .....

              I agree Elisabeth, The Red Tent was wonderful. It has gotten me interested in learning more factual info of the bibical eras & buying books when I run across them in thrift stores (where I get 95% of my books.....)
              LOL Readers Digest evidently made it easier I have just found out

              I couldn't find it fo the title but The Four Queens was excellent; based on a true story of an Irish girl enslaved & eventually queen of an Mid East country. It also revolves around a dwarf that was a famous English man that was the Sultans right hand that I would like to know more about him. I guess he was quite the courtier in a few countries......
              I read a book about a French Jamaican woman that was similiarly captured & was the last Sultana of ?turkish area... It was written by the woman who wrote the book on eeehhh the slave woman/lover of Jefferson??
              A friend ons it so I don't rember the names but the authors research was intense & meticulous bcz she had received so much riff from her book on Sally (?).... sure would like a copy for myself.....

              My general favorites are Kenneth Roberts that wrote on early America too. Lydia Baily is about the Haitian Revolution against France but with Americas involvement (it was a movie too but no one remembers it but me I think...) & the Arundel series on the American Revolution. His research is so thorough that he makes a scary case for Benedict Arnold that sure wasn't taught in my history classes.

              & Han Suyin, who is just a incredible story herself -Love Is A Many Splendor, The Crippled Tree etc. The Enchantress is fantasy historical fiction of a girl who goes from Switzerland, through the mid east & into southren China area, Burma, becomes a high concubine lives through the civil wars there & home again. Fascinating the information on the trade routes & travels in 1750s

              Ilike Chines historical novels too but I'll just leave Pearl S Bucks name for that bcz she's the tops as a compassionate American for the Chinese person.
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    Mon, July 4, 2005 - 3:36 AM
    "Pillars of the Earth" is one of my favorites. I must have owned about a half a dozen of so copies which I lent and lost, but my all time favorite author would be Bernard Cornwell.

    He has a few series with really well developed characters. Since someone mentioned "Le Mort d'Artur" I thought I would mention his Arthur series of three books.

    It has a definitely less romantic perspective. Arthur is very human, lancelot is despicable, and the hero is just a spearman sworn to Arthur. You laugh, you cry, you smell the wood smoke and watch (in your imagination) the lice crawling through the beards.

    I could read them over and over again from any page anywhere in any of the books.

    His other series are also worth reading.

    www.bernardcornwell.net/

    P O
    RJ
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      Mon, July 4, 2005 - 8:57 AM
      >>but my all time favorite author would be Bernard Cornwell.

      I've never read any Bernard Cornwell, but thanks for the link. Wow. He's prolific. I'll have to give him a whirl. It is always nice to have an author you like write LOTS of stuff. And I love Arthurian stuff.
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        Thu, July 21, 2005 - 8:33 PM
        Thanks for all the recs, I see a trip to the library in my future.

        I'll second Guy Gavriel Kay. I really love nearly all his books, and even though they aren't strictly historically accurate, they are still very good.

        My favorite historical fiction author is Judith Merkle Riley. Everything she writes is gold, but my favorite is 'The Oracle Glass' which centers on the witches of Paris who were tried and executed after years of supplying the nobility with abortions and inheritance powers!

        Also, I recently discovered 'The Canterbury Papers' by Judith Healy, which was very good.
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          Wed, July 27, 2005 - 5:49 PM
          Author: Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

          Sir Nigel

          The White Company

          Incredibly well researched and well written.
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            Wed, July 27, 2005 - 8:41 PM
            >>Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

            I've never read him. What are his books about? What era?
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              Thu, July 28, 2005 - 2:37 AM

              Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote the Sherlock Holmes novels.

              High Victorian is the period and he does it very well.

              I love novels by Edith Wharton. Although they are not true "historic" novels she writes very well and captures all the undercurrents of late Victorian society. My favorite is "The Buccaneers" about young newly rich American girls who go to England in search of a place in society and husbands.
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                Thu, July 28, 2005 - 7:06 AM
                >>Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote the Sherlock Holmes novels.

                Just goes to show how sorely lacking my education was. I have never read Sherlock Holmes! I'll have to pick some up.

                I've never read Edith Wharton either, though I've read all Jane Austen's works, over and over. I did see The House of Mirth and have to say that THAT was a depressing movie. Is that indicative of her writing?
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                  Thu, July 28, 2005 - 2:37 PM

                  From the perspective of a modern woman I can see how her writing would be considered depressing. I have never seen The House of Mirth, although I have read it. It is hard for us to imagine a woman being "dropped" from society strictly because of money (or the lack thereof) and because